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of ayman, republican revolt. house speaker mike johnson just pitched his plan to keep the government open and legislate members of his own party are already shutting him down. plus, 60 or losing strap. the gop has lost almost every major election since 2017. when will they learn they need to change? and taking advantage, how president biden and democrats can keep it straight going into 2024 and beyond. i'm ayman mohyeldin, let's get
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started. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> republicans, well --? they just keep on losing. and this week the gop suffered more losses in states all over the political spectrum to, in large part, to a stubborn hard-line stance on extremism and abortion. out of step with the super majority of the american public on both of those. virginians weren't fooled by governor glenn youngkin's gaslighting about a common sense 15 week abortion ban, that's how he described it. pennsylvanians refused to allow a candidate who had tried to hide her radical views on abortion, even scrambling sections of her campaign website from pain seated on the state supreme court. and over in ohio, well, voters there voted to enshrine reproductive rights into their state constitution by a
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whopping 13 point margin. despite this embarrassing and clear losing streak, guess what? not one republican presidential candidate in this week's debate moderated their tone on abortion. >> i'm 100% pro-life. i have a 100% protective voting record. i would certainly, as president of the united states half a 15-week national limit. i would not allow states like california, illinois, or new york to have abortion up until the day of birth. >> and it's clear republicans still to understand the damage their beliefs have done to their electoral prospects. just listen to them hours before and even after their losses in this clip our friends at deadline put together. >> a big thank you to president donald j trump for his support. [applause] and his endorsement of this campaign. let me just say, let me just say that trump culture of winning is alive and well in kentucky. >> that didn't turn out exactly how i wanted it to. i promised the governor of a
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brief, so i'll be brief tonight. and say, thank you all. >> hold the house, flip the senate. hold the house, flip the senate. we know how to do this. we learned in 2021 how to win elections. >> and so, i look forward to working with the house and the senate going forward just like we have. >> well, what will it take for republicans to actually wake up? because they're now in an historically terrible losing streak, at every level. the state and even federal level. and it's honestly thanks to two very clear issues. one is donald trump. and two is abortion access. the gop lost the house to a democratic blue wave in the 2018 midterms. they lost the presidency in 2020. they lost the senate in 2021 and miserably underperformed in 2022, when everybody was expecting a so-called red wave. and just this week, that lost
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once again after wrapping their arms around abortion restrictions and, yes, donald trump, the man who handpicked conservative supreme court justices with the deliberate intent of striking down roe v. wade, which they ultimately did. as put by politico, never mind americans making concerns about the economy. never mind and expanding portfolio of global crises and wars and conflicts. and definitely never mind those you're out presidential polls. there is no two ways about it. it was another good election night for democrats. joining me now are brittany packnett cunningham, an msnbc political analyst and alaina beverly, a former national director of national -- average for obama in 2008, and host of the podcast -- and also kurt bardella, l. a. times contributor. before house oversight committee spokesperson for republicans. great to have you here. lots to unpack here, brittany, i'll start with republicans. they have hoped after 2022 that
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would somehow reclaim suburban voters. that is not the case. on tuesday, those voters in virginia, kentucky, and ohio swung back to democrats without any ambiguity. and it was because of abortion issues dominating the conversation. are suburbs in this country, certainly in those states, becoming a blue wall for democrats? >> i mean, i think that whether or not it of wall has yet to be seen. we'll see over a longitudinal look at this, especially as we come upon a presidential election next year. but i think what is really clear is that one of the biggest mistakes that gop made was creating a world without abortion, with less access to abortion over the last year and some change. because not woman and pregnant
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people don't have to imagine what the world would be, post route. we have been living in it. we have been seeing the kind of medical crises it's been causing. we've been seeing the kind of threats that people and doctors and mothers and daughters have been under. we've experienced what it feels like to have just a taste of our rights, once again, stripped. and people do not like it. so whether you're talking about the suburbs of an urban area or poor, ever folks have actually already tasted what that might look like. we don't have to imagine it and we fully reject living like this anymore. a lot of those gop candidates and folks are shaking in their bigoted boots right now, because that recognize that americans have been disgusted with some of the things they've been doing. daniel cameron thought he was going to sail to the governor's mansion on the back of breonna taylor. groups like untold freedom and local organizers made sure that wasn't true. and these are the kinds of experiences americans are
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rejecting. >> alaina, there was a headline this look out for me from rolling stone. we have it there on the screen, saying, maybe stealing women's rights wasn't the best election plan. >> absolutely. look, this antiabortion policy that republicans have continued to a spouse is their liability. it's a losing opposition for. then it unifies and animates a very broad electorate. so when you're talking about a hot, you're talking about issued one. the voters that came out in support of that build initiative were men, urban men, voters of color, across generations, 18 to 64. so for seeing that abortion rights and abortion access and the pushing back against the government overreach and republicans trying to ratchet back a woman's bodily integrity.
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all of that is animating the electorate across the states. across ohio, across virginia, across kentucky. and we've seen this since the overturning of roe, it's been a consistent issue that abortion access is something that voters are engaged in trying to get back. so for example, when it comes to the red wave in 2022, the supreme court race, the antiabortion fellow initiative on the belt in kansas, it is abortion rights has been a winning proposition for democratic elections and a losing proposition for republicans. >> kurt, to the alaina's point. abortion has become in no other terms kryptonite for the republican party and they find themselves in between a rock and a hard place. their base, their maga extreme base, keeps agitating for and pushing for a federal abortion
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ban. extremists and the party are promising it. but clearly, even so-called compromise positions like youngkin's 15-week ban -- it is political kryptonite. it is not a winning strategy. and help to recognize what the red base wants? and their ability to govern? because it's kind of, like, in your desk of their base what they want to hear, no it's never going to work. >> yeah, if you want to know how this ends on a national scale, look at what happened to the california republican party. people forget, that influence that 90s, that republican party and california was thriving. they hit a majority in the state legislature. they were leading the governor 's race. pete wilson was the governor. what happened over time, they moved so far to the right they started trying to appease their primary voters and what ended up happening within the decade, they found themselves completely out of power. democrats had voted majorities in the state legislature. democrats swept all the state legislative offices, all the
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statewide offices, all the constitutional officers. because republicans kept pandering to the extreme right, prioritized winning primaries not elections, and that was the end result. that's exactly what we're seeing right now from republicans at the national level. prioritizing when it through primaries, pandering to the market extreme right, pandering to the fox news crowd, and at the end of the day it is a touch with the majority of americans. this issue of pro-life, pro-choice has been to for a really long time in the minds of the american people. the republican party seems to have lost the memo on that, and they keep losing election after election after election. and then wake up the next day, go, you know what? i know we lost the last five games in the road, but we're going to run the same strategy back. let's run that back in hope for a different result. there is a quirk for what you call it when you repeat the same behavior expecting a different result. that today's republican party. >> brittany, abortion played a major role and democrats victories back in 2022, direct the midterms some pundits connected it to the overturning of roe being so fresh and people's minds. they thought maybe by 2023 and even 2024 it's still not gonna be an issue. and i think they underestimate
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just how much of a mobilizing force this is. because it wasn't a bellwether issue, right? it's an issue people feel, if your fundamental rights are stripped away from you, they're not gonna forget it in a year's time or two years time, they're gonna remember it until that right is reinstated. >> absolutely. and i think one of the things we've seen organizers around the issue of abortion to really really well is make sure that we're telling the story. make sure we're talking about it as a common medical procedure. making sure that we are demystifying and removing the shame and stigma from the procedure and the choices around it. we've seen those organizers not only make sure those stories are told, but also uplifting stories of those who have suffered after roe is overturned. and in that time, we've seen that super majority of people
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not only go from saying that abortion should be allowed and identify as pro choice, but to say that it's morally acceptable. to thinking the 15-week and 16 -- sorry, six week bans are unacceptable and draconian. so that kind of story tonight, that kind of on off the narrative has been absolutely essential to helping americans understand this is about our fundamental bodily autonomy and when we see it in that way, when we can connect the dots between abortion and poverty, abortion and medical racism, abortion and so much more, then people are really able to stand firmly in their understanding of why we can never allow ourselves to be a country that does not have -- that does not allow women or anyone control over their bodies. >> panel, please stick around. we're going to squeeze and a quick break. afterwards, we'll tackle the republican resistance to house speaker mike johnson's newly announced plans to keep the government open. you don't want to miss that. but first, my friend richard is here with the headlines. >> hey, some of the stories
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yesterday the u.s. government was barreling towards a government shutdown. and yet here we are once again. it is just six days away. and house speaker mike johnson proving that he is not up to the task of keeping the government lights on. breaking today, johnson released a two-step continuing resolution embracing conservative desire for a tiered government funding plan. but also breaking today, he's already running into a wall of resistance from this very same conservatives, chip roy, marjorie taylor greene, warren davidson. they have all time out swinging, attacking johnson for his ill-conceived.
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glenn johnson can lose only minimal gop support if he intends to actually pass his plan through the house. the white house press secretary jean-pierre chimed in a short while ago, saying, quote, this proposal is just a recipe for more republican chaos and more shutdowns, full stop. my panel is back with me. brittany packnett cunningham, alaina beverly, and kurt bardella. kurt, i'll start with you on this round. your reaction to this untested funding approach from the new speaker? back to square one, six days ago. >> well, it's the least shocking center that a speaker that was just thrown into office after two books of chaos has no idea what he's doing and isn't over his head. that republicans are not going to resume their tide anticipates refugee of attacking one another and creating a spiraling -- spiraling government shutdown of which they have no idea how to get out of. they'll pay a price for. this they seem to be intent on reminding the american people, every six of the, they have no earthly idea what you're doing. they're clearly too caught up
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in their own drama and their own interpersonal conflicts to be trusted with the rights of power. it's unfolding and is backed up -- you threw out one. speaker even one of your own maga right wing constitutional conservative, whatever you want to call it, in the seat of power. and here we are, a few weeks into the speakership, and you are now back to attacking him. and this is going to be a cycle that will repeat itself over and over and over, because this republican party is completely ungovernable. they love sitting on the sidelines yelling at the people in power. but once you put one of them in that chair, they have no idea what they're doing. >> brittani, you have chip roy, marjorie taylor greene already speaking out against the proposal. and i assume, based on what mike johnson is doing, he's not a math guy. so he can only afford to lose four gop votes as of democrats oppose it, and that is assume you've got the house in full attendance. how does this look like to you?
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>> i mean, we already knew he wasn't a math guy. because he's an election denier. so he had some travel heading up in the first place. but listen, ever since he's been in this position, the republican party has not chipped in one. but i actually am old enough to remember a strong republican party that moved in lockstep. certainly on things i didn't occur with him, aunt they were tight, they were controlled, they were always in order. and i wish i could sit back and just chuckle as somebody who vehemently disagrees with so much oh what this party stands for. because they're incapable -- in chaos. they cannot seem to get it together, because they don't know what the right hand is the ortholog is doing at the same time. and yet, the american people suffer when they cannot even be functional. we're talking about parents and children who will not be able to have access to wic, to formula, to the food that need to survive. we're talking about federal employees who will be stop living from their savings, who
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are often already underpaid, and then heading to tucker out the next move as they wait on the government to finally get together. i really wish i could sit back and chuckled at the circuit that's in charge, but guess what. the american people suffer when the circus is in town. >> this is not a man, or is exactly pointed out. there are people's lives and livelihoods at stake here. you do not want to be a federal employee who cannot pay a mortgage payment because michael johnson and the republican party cannot get their act together. and, yet alaina, that's where we find ourselves. let's say my johnson pulls this miracle of some sort and gets this bill for the house. it will still fall short because he has to deal with the democratic-controlled senate. so he's basically trying to waste his time -- no it won't go anywhere with the democrats. and here we are. again, republicans just simply waste in time for political purposes and not getting the job done. >> you're right. i mean, this was developed, to
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appease the far-right and freedom caucus -- they're not with him because it does not have the budgetary cut they want. but democrats won't be. within senator patty murray who chairs the senate appropriations committee called this the craziest, stupidest thing she's ever seen. it doesn't include any of that request the biden administration made for military support for ukraine or humanitarian aid for ukraine or gaza. but importantly, it has this -- there is no other way to say. asinine rolling funding of the agencies. how is that possible? how are we going to put this together, when there's funding of the agencies for hud and d. o. t. through january, and funding of commerce and hhs in february? it continues to kick the can
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down the road and make fiscal cliffs for the agency staggered. it's a ludicrous proposal and there is no way they look at democratic support. >> kurt, what's the plan for democrats? here if this was purely about politics, i might say sit on the sidelines, let that republicans continue to make fools of themselves. but both to brittany and alaina's points, at some point an adult has to step up and say, we have got this, we can't let millions of americans suffer because this republicans can't get their act together. so what to actually do in a moment like this? >> ultimately, i think -- during some of these conversations and political debates, we hear a lot of the media about the so-called moderates, and districts biden carried that are up in the next election cycle. these are the people that could hold the key here. they can come to the table and, say we are over the extreme maga right wing of the republican conference. we're done being held hostage -- we're gonna tell you, this is what we're gonna vote for and will work with democrats to achieve. that the problem of, course, is
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any republican speaker that moves forward and puts a bill on the floor that was negotiated with democrats, there will be a motion to vacate, he'll be thrown out of the speakership, will be thrown back into chaos. that's the problem with the republican party. what we need now is leadership. what we need from republicans, anybody sitting in that chair is a i don't care if you vote me, out we are getting this government funded and if you throw me out for that, so be it. that's the attitude we need right now, i just don't think speaker mike johnson has the you know what to do. >> those republicans, those moderate republicans coming from biden won districts, they could have sided with the democrats for speaker of the house and actually elect an adult to run the chamber, yet they demonstrated once again they are still more loyal to their party than to good governance. brittany, we are barreling towards another shutdown, six
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days away. as we've been talking about, it will affect that livelihoods of millions of federal workers and others with -- snap benefits, national parks, there is a list on the screen. to you believe mike johnson had these people in mind when drafting his proposal? >> certainly not. there is no possible way he had any of the people affected by this programs or any of the people he claims to represent and be in service of in mind when he created this proposal. what he did have in mind, to kurt's point, was keeping his new job. making sure he didn't take off the wrong people who continue to hold the faith not just of the republican party but the country there are tightly clenched maga hands. he did not have any of the people in mind. he had himself. and he continues to have those who hold and dangle his job in front of him it might, trying to make sure the american people are.
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served when that happens, to your point, not only do we not have an adult in charge operating with any level of courage or empathy, we also have multiple folks who aren't acting like adults in concert with that. and as that keeps happening, it will not matter who's in the seat because whomever that wing of the party puts in the state will not have the lives of the american people in mind first or ever. >> panel, we are going to take another break. when we come back, we are going to discuss how president biden and democrats can capitalize on the republicans losing streak. don't go anywhere. (ella) fashion moves fast. (jen) so we partner with verizon to take our operations to the next level. (marquis) with a custom private 5g network. (ella) we get more control of production, efficiencies, and greater agility. (jen) that's enterprise intelligence. (vo) it's your vision, it's your verizon.
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could serve as his blueprint for next year. because no matter what you make of biden, abortion rights and the right to vote approving galvanizing factories and mobilizing factories for democratic voters. and the parties actively working to recreate 2023's environment for 2024 marketing abortion rights referendums on the ballot in key states, including arizona, nevada, and florida. my panel is back with me. alaina, i'll start with you this round. will tuesday night's election results silence biden's doubters? >> absolutely not. i think it provides some encouragement. certainly, the abortion rights animates voters. and now we're seeing that activism and advocates are pushing abortion rights on the ballot, as you mentioned, in arizona, nevada, and florida. that will help pave the way. but the polls that we saw earlier this week are indicative of important data points that biden's team needs
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to consider. and they do know that these witnesses are within his campaign, in terms of engagement of young voters, in terms of engagement of voters of color and they're working actively to address that coalition that pushed him over the edge last go around. they're working to engage all of his voters as persuadable,'s and try to get him back into the fold. so, no. tuesday doesn't mean that biden has it in the bag, but that combined with the recent polls shows where he has room to grow and we have his work is before him. >> good point. the road ahead is still long but there are some signs of hope for. him kurt, political scientists have started comparing our elections to frances elections, where he president they, are emmanuel macron, who is deeply unpopular with a public approval rating in the mid 30s still managed to secure reelection in 2022.
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he won by a double digit margin. is that a fair comparison or is there something there team biden can learn from? >> well, i think, again. this is a problem with police. first of, all who in the hell, honest to god, has 30 to 40 minutes to sit on the phone with a poster and talk about their political beliefs. i've never met anybody in my life who's actually participated in this mythical polls. but the idea they put out influence on our narrative is insane. the only poll that matters is the one that happens on election day. going back to 2017, every data point we have seen in the polls, in the polls conducted on
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election day, is good news for democrats, bad news for republicans. that's the only straight i care about. we are on one hell of a winning streak. i'm so tired of democrats constantly ringing their hands and whining and complaining -- i'm a former republican. i guess i'm used to more bombastic football -- we kick your butt mentality. democrats were always worried about stuff and it's, like man, we are on one hell of a winning streak. we should be celebrating that democratic party agenda. we should be celebrating a president and a democrat majority that got historic
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legislation passed which, by the way, the same numbers in the house representatives -- nancy pelosi w somehow able to govern her caucus. compare that to what we've seen from republicans. we got so much stuff done. this is a time to celebrate the democratic party agenda that is from inside that mainstream of the american public that clearly the maga agenda is. i think democrats have the political scientists and journalists -- they need to take a deep knee and chill and do their job, to promote the agenda that's been winning with the american people. >> brittany, despite republicans continue their losing streak, you think they'd learn -- maybe modify, especially on the issue of abortion. that ain't happening. senator lindsey graham saying he plans to reintroduce his 15 -week abortion ban. by the way, this is the same senator, excuse, me who once it abortion is a states issue, he now wants to actually ban it on a federal level after 15 weeks. what is going on here? what do you make of that? >> i make of that that this is part of a 50-year project that that republicans have been performing. we know that the second that wrote the camp that law of the land, that they were busy in themselves, building what, at the time, honestly, an odd couple composition and coalition in order to find that. back in over the last five decades, they've been fighting a narrative war. they've been flashing a traditional war. they've been fighting a political war. to finally get in the position to do this. which means they're not going to stop. now no matter what. i don't know. constituents and voters have to
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say. but i think that pay democrats have an opportunity to prove themselves as quite different then the republican party. and i'm not just talking about the great distance that there is between these parties and policy and in ideas and beliefs. those differences are very clear. but the democratic party has the opportunity to show it listens to the people. because i actually think that whether it's the polls that we're seeing online or the polls that so many of us take when we talk to your family members. my polls are when i talk to my aunties who are watching tonight or when i talk to other young or crosses, other young people trying to decide if and how they want to be engaged in politics.
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not because they're empathetic, but because they simply have not found the reasons to travel system. democrat it to show their listening to them. that when it comes to issues of a cease-fire and freeing the hostages in palestine, that that is an important conversation. and joe biden actually needs to be more responsive on that. when it comes to abortion, that democrats need to be really tight and thoughtful in their messaging, mirroring what we're seeing organizers doing. not just and how that mission this, mind you, but on how that legislator these things. so they can show the american people that it's not just what you are voting against, that were given funding, giving you something strong, legitimate and powerful to vote for. >> absolutely. and a special shout out to your aunties watching tonight, brittany. give them my best, we appreciate their viewership. brittany packnett cunningham,
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alaina beverly, kurt bardella, tank to the three of you for joining us this hour. up next, my conversation with doctor tanya haj-hassan from doctors without borders about the catastrophic conditions inside gaza and its hospitals. it even cleans itself! just blend water with a drop of soap. what are you waiting for? order yours now from blendjet.com before they sell out again!
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borders reported today that hospitals in gaza have been under relentless bombardment over the past 24 hours. al-shifa, gaza's largest hospital has been hit several times, including the maternity and outpatient departments. the palestinian ministry of health reports at least two children in the nursery have died after the electrical generator stopped running. the palestinian red crescent society, humanitarian organization, said today that is really tanks were shooting directly at the al-quds hospital, the organization had already warned that the hospital was on the verge of shutting down and that patients in the icu and babies in incubators were at risk of dying. here now, is mohammed obeid, a surgeon with doctors without borders at al-shifa, describing the situation from inside the hospital. >> we are on the fourth floor,
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and also, there's a sniper who attacked for patients inside the hospital. one of them had the gunshot in his neck and the other was shot in the abdomen. as some of the people which actually were outside the hospital, they bomb them also, they bombed their families. we are nearly sure that we are alone now. no one hears us. but we want someone to give us a guarantee that they can evacuate the patients because we have about 600 in patients who need medical care and who need evacuation. >> doctors without borders has asked for an immediate cease-fire in gaza. doctor haj-hassan, a pediatric intensive care and -- with that group joins me now. doctor hassan, thank you for making time with us this evening. i know that you have called this the worst humanitarian catastrophe that you've ever experienced in your lifetime. one that is 100% man-made. we just heard from one of the doctors at al-shifa hospital. what else have you been hearing
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from your colleagues? >> hi ayman. ayman, when i described as the worst humanitarian catastrophe that i've seen in my lifetime, that was almost three weeks ago now. we've been warning about this for weeks. yet, every day, we reached a new low in an endless stream of unconscionable violence. and we've entered a very, very dark era for humanity. one of our dear colleagues there, a young surgeon had messaged about a week ago now, to say that every time she says this is more difficult. this is the worst thing that could ever happen. it's impossible that the world will be silent to it. it will definitely get better. i'm quoting her.
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we finally reached the end. the next day comes, and it proves to me that there is something even worse. and i think that's the sentiment that myself, and many of the humanitarian doctors and health care professionals that i'm in contact with, we share that sentiment. but we are hearing from there, i think you just presented the audio message from doctor obeid. the hospitals, two days ago, were heavily attacked, five hospitals were heavily attacked. including al-shifa hospital, the largest run hospital, ran
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tc hospital, which is the pediatric children's specialty hospital, the only psychiatric hospital in gaza was also attacked. some evacuated, some of the health care professionals evacuated to the south, many others remained with their patients that could not physically be evacuated because they are attached to machines, because they are critically unwell, because they're not conscious enough or our post op -- post surgery, and cannot mobilize. so we know that al-shifa hospital, at the moment, there are 600 patients, 28 of them are in the intensive care unit. there are 37 newborn babies, many of them, very small. weighing very little and requiring incubators to keep them -- prevent them from having hypothermia. some of them are requiring oxygen, and ventilator support. we know that the oxygen supply was targeted yesterday. and they are unable to provide oxygen. they don't have electricity to run the incubators to all of these newborns, so they've been moved to an area of the hospital that is not equipped
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to care for them. two of those babies have since died. one adult patient who was also on a ventilator died, as a consequence of these conditions. they informed us that snipers are -- have targeted the hospital, have attacked for patients inside the hospital. doctor obeid mentioned one of them resulting in quadriplegic, the patient is essentially unable to move their hands or a legs anymore as a consequence of an injury to a spinal cord. the people they are trying to evacuate are directly targeted. i want to remind everybody that those that are in the hospital have no access to food, no access to water, no electricity. and they've been begging to evacuate the patients, they've been begging for international protection. for weeks now, there have been almost 200 health care providers, so far, that we know of, that have been killed. and ayman, i've been following your show for a very long time. i watch msnbc, and i want to
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first thank you for maintaining the integrity of journalism was, that devotion to searching for the truth and reporting on the facts, that they don't want you to know. >> right. >> we share that, as doctors without borders -- one of our founding principles is tã©moignage, which means bearing witness. we were founded by journalists and medics to bear witness on these atrocities and to really suffering. in this instance, today, we can do neither, we can't bear witness, because we can't be present on the ground. >> and you can't help. >> we can't help because we've been cut off from all the tools of modern medicine to do so. >> let me ask you about that. how do you maintain any hope for trying to improve the situation? how do you not feel helpless about the situation? >> i think it's really easy to plunge into despondence. we've watched repeated strikes on hospitals, ambulances, schools and other densely populated areas. we have watched the repeated and intentionally -- intentional breaking of international law, in full view, without any censure. and with permission of key western nations and allies. in some cases, even being armed by them. this is --
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the thing that gives me hope is that there's a collective international humanitarian community that has been demanding a cease fire, that has been exposing this unconscionable massacre. that messes has been echoed by the overwhelming majority of countries on this planet in the united nations general assembly over a week ago. and by millions of people around the world who have taken to the streets, millions of people from different backgrounds, different religions, all coming together and saying this is not a world we want to live in. when i see that unity in humanity, it gives me hope that this dark abyss that we are plunging into is something that we can collectively emerge from. the other thing that gives me hope is watching some of the children. because i think -- my specialty is caring for children. and i watch the resilience and
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in the words of one of my colleagues a week ago when i was feeling despondent, one of my colleagues in vancouver, she said, when your mind races, come back to the child. you will be heartbroken, but you will always be right. and i think every time i refocus on that, i get a sense of determination, and i hope that your viewers, who are probably feeling despondent to, can channel that into determination to get us out of this. >> i was going to say, i think a lot of people around the world who are watching this right now in realtime unfolds are feeling a sense of despair and hopelessness. but as you said, it's important not to lose sight of what is happening on the ground at any given moment.
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doctor tanya haj-hassan, i appreciate your insights this evening. >> thank you ayman. >> we'll be right back. ty. ♪
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i stay undetectable with fewer medicines. ask your doctor about switching to dovato. >> no electricity, no running water, no place to call home. that is the case for them more than 100,000 bedouins in israel 's negev desert. now pushed to the edge in the first weeks of the israel-hamas war. nbc's jay gray has more. >> history and hatreds the bedouins have left them with no place to call home. more than 100,000 living in the beget desert, their villages, unrecognized by israel which means no power, water, or paved roads, permanent buildings, are considered illegal, and they say often demolished by government cruise. >> we suffer as israeli citizens, we suffer as arab citizens, we suffer as bedouins. >> -- a bedouin lawyer and former --
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he worked to have more than a dozen bedouins communities recognized by the state, and says this war has tightened what was already a suffocating grip on his people. >> if it's quiet, we suffer from discrimination and if it's war, we suffer from rockets. that's not so nice to be in the situation. >> it's no when. >> just lose. you can't win. >> the losses include 15 bedouins killed in the october 7th attacks, and community leaders say seven more taken as hostages, including similar -- whose family says they came across this picture of him, which nbc cannot verify, on social media, after he was captured. >> for a month, we've been praying to god for him to return to us in good health. we've not been able to sleep, eat, or do anything. >> this community was so little, struggling long before the war, now, pushed to the edge, wrapped in fear. >> the war has been tough on everyone. >> --
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he tells us his ten-year-old daughter, -- , has trouble speaking, at times, stuttering and stammering. >> others, rambling incoherently. >> the girl is not doing well. she scared and traumatized from the missiles that vibrate the whole area like an earthquake. >> in a place that has no protection from israel's iron dome, no warning sirens, and no shelters. after two missile strikes that killed four in this village, the defense ministry delivered these concrete drainage pipes to use as a shelters for 100 people here. like so much about their existence in this is really desert, the bedouins say it's too little too late. jay gray, nbc news, negative, israel. >> thanks to jay gray for that report, and thank you for making time for us. make sure to come back tomorrow
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night, nine eastern on msnbc. democratic congresswoman, camilla jayapal, joins me to discuss republicans disastrous plans to avoid a government shutdown, and what her party can learn from the massive election winds on tuesday night. until then, i'm ayman mohyeldin in new york. have a good night. [sfx: game controller] when occasional heartburn won't let you sleep.
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